[b]President should not be a "Demote-on-death" job...[/b] The President is a crucial part of the DarkRP roleplay experience because he gives CP the chance to actually have some power in roleplay without being constantly countered by miniguns, nerve gas, explosives, etc. By allowing the President to continue playing after death, you open up room for better CP RP, more realistic RP among "the bad" players, and allowance for players to actually enjoy and improve on their role as President in RP. [i]There are many reasons for this and I will be touching base on each of these below the list.[/i] [b]1[/b].a. Provides better opportunity for new players to learn the job and understand how it works. [b]2[/b].a. Allows a player to really focus on their role and create laws and organize CP properly without constant worry of assassination ( outside of RP ) [b]3[/b].a. Prevents players from immediately trying to assassinate the president because they don't want to have to RP and abide by the laws that pres provides. [b]4[/b]. Encourages players who play "the bad" to engage in more realistic RP. [i]Other recommendations for the Job...[/i] [b]1[/b].b. Pres will spawn in PD. [b]2[/b].b. If players are truly unsatisfied with pres from a roleplay experience standpoint, they may demote so to act as a "removal from office".  [b]3[/b].b. Pres may be given the opportunity to roleplay as CP once laws are created etc. however their main role will be in the office refining and revising laws and taxes. [b]Reasoning for 1.a. :[/b] Players new to DarkRP may not understand the role as president and may take more time to learn and understand the role. Without the time to learn the commands, how to manage certain areas, how to navigate their console, players are never given an experience to learn. This unfortunately is due to the fact that players abuse the mechanic of a pres being demoted on death and will immediately assassinate the president so as to not have to worry about RP laws or stronger CP presence. [b]Reasoning for 2.a.[/b] Going along with the reasoning for 1.a., players are not typically given the chance to really learn and improve on their role as president in RP due to the fact that players will immediately target the pres. This makes attempting to RP as pres and focus on improving themselves in that role unreasonably difficult and almost impossible unless there is a strong CP presence and a relatively mild-mannered player base. As far as not having to worry about assassination outside of roleplay... Under roleplay, the president should still be concerned about assassination, plain and simple. If the president is clearly not taking that rule to heart then that should be reason enough for a demote as it would seem that they are then abusing the mechanic of not being demoted on death. This would fall under FearRP.  [b]Reasoning for 3.a.[/b]  Players will immediately target anyone playing as President. Yes, some of "the bad" are playing as people who hate law enforcement, rebels, etc. however it is clear that there is non-rp motive. Players simply don't want to roleplay under the laws of a president and would rather go about their play time being able to play their class however they want. Not a bad thing, however it results in issues like excessive kidnappings, a power-hungry criminal base, and total lawlessness and chaos in the server. This will also typically result in an excessive amount of disgruntled players, confusion on RDM or FailRP, and suffering player experience. The fact of the matter is that players who have a lot of power on the server will begin to abuse it and a strong CP presence is a way to counter that under RP. [b]Reasoning for 4[/b]. Touching again on the fact that players will immediately target the President so as to not have one in the first place. Having a President role that does not demote on death would reduce or eliminate "the bad" players from excessively targeting the President. Since there would be no long-term gain from them assassinating every President that takes the role, it would encourage the players who play "the bad" to engage in more realistic RP and follow the laws set by the pres and calm down some of the illegal activity. Excessive kidnappings are a perfect example and have been extremely prevalent on the server lately. If there are an excessive number of kidnappings, a president could roleplay a lockdown due to the excessive number of kidnappings and take control of the streets and allow some players a bit of a breather from excessive crime. This would also encourage "the bad" to be more picky or be a little more hesitant when doing certain illegal activities under fear of CP presence. I would also like to mention again that CP is a crucial part of the roleplay experience in DarkRP and unfortunately they are not commonly played due to the simple fact that players will target CP in order to gain control of the server. A President SIGNIFICANTLY increases the amount of control the CP has over the player base allowing them to have more armor, better weapons, more health, etc. Allowing them to have a fighting chance against the experienced players with powerful weapons or classes. Without a President, CP is unreasonably weak and has no real impact on RP experience. I would also like to highlight the fact that even though the President would not be demoted on death, they would still be required to act under FearRP as if they are in danger of assassination. If such occurs then they would act under NLR just like any other class. If a President is clearly not acting under FearRP then that would be reason for demotion. Demotion being the "removal from office" both of a President is not following rules or if players are truly unsatisfied with the RP experience under that President. The main object of making the President a non-demote-on-death job is to allow the job to have more of an impact under the RP experience. Allowing CP to have more of a role in the RP experience and encouraging players to participate in RP under a President rather than just killing them and removing them from office so as to have a less powerful or non-existent CP presence. Thank you for taking the time to read this, I will be happy to answer any questions or acknowledge any concerns about anything stated above!

I 1000% agree with your points but with President being demoted on death I feel like it sets a challenge for the player to make a good defense in the PD aswell as checkpoints. If the President were to never be demoted players would never have the chance to do anything about laws that screw them over. I would def be in favor of giving the President a spawn point in PD because thats only fair to the person Rping as that job. It provides everyone a equal opportunity to lead downtown and the bad presidents will fall while the good ones shall remain. In terms of new players becoming the job and not having a fair opportunity of being the job serves as a trial and error of how they can improve the precious role of President. Once I make the update where Presidents spawn in PD I feel like their success rate of staying alive will be alot greater. With this suggestion I will meet you in the middle and keep the demotion but making a spawn in PD where they can get the upperhand and make a defense to the PD.

What about for the times that there is little to no police force, where the only governing force may be the Mayor/Pres? With this being the case, there would be no CP and the server will be full of players abusing the lack of CP with excessive kidnapping, mugging, raiding, etc. I understand the desire for a challenge but there is a severe imbalance between "the bad" and "the good". I'm glad we agreed on the spawn point in PD however I don't believe that will solve many, if any, of the problems stated.

I would never agree more! this would add such a great way to increase the RP experience.